Vintage Leather Shoulder Bag Red Genuine Leather • Velvet Interior Very good vintage condition, a couple marks on outside, very little wear throughout. See photos for approximate measurements and condition • Please see photos & description for measurements, details & item condition before purchasing. Once I have shipped, all sales are final •
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | photo 4: Zipper closures are visible, but no brand engraving or distinctive Coach hardware can be read. Other hardware is minimally visible. |
| leather description | photos 2-6: Smooth red leather or leather-like material with surface creasing and light marks; exact material cannot be confirmed from photos. |
| lining description | not_visible in photos; seller states velvet interior |
| strap construction | photos 1-3 and 6: Thin matching-red long shoulder strap attached at the upper side corners; adjustability and attachment details are not clearly shown. |
| stitching description | photos 4-6: Visible topstitching is generally straight and even, with a central front seam and stitched zip compartments; close stress-point inspection is unavailable. |
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"photo 2: Red leather shoulder bag with a practical zip-top rectangular silhouette and front zip compartment.",
"photo 4: Leather appears smooth and substantial rather than obviously synthetic.",
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"listing text: Seller describes the item only as a vintage leather bag and does not provide a Coach model, origin, creed, or serial.",
"photo 4-6: zip-top closure with exterior slip pocket and thin fixed strap - no turnlock, no brass dogleash clips, no bead-chain hangtag visible",
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"Bottom, side seams, corners, and a full strap-condition photo.",
"Exact measurements and any country-of-origin markings.",
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"Condition: Very Good by the seller's description and photos, with visible surface marks and creasing; interior, bottom, odor, and strap stress points are not shown, so condition cannot be fully verified.",
"No Coach identifier visible so no catalog match can be ranked; zip-top thin-strap silhouette does not match turnlock flap classics like City Bag (9790), Willis (9927), Court (9870) or Station (5130)",
"Seller-stated velvet interior, if accurate, points away from unlined Coach classics",
"Condition: appears Very Good to Excellent externally with light surface marks; interior, bottom corners and strap fold not shown so grade capped"
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"Condition: Very Good by the seller's description and photos, with visible surface marks and creasing; interior, bottom, odor, and strap stress points are not shown, so condition cannot be fully verified."
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.