Black felt vintage mid century handbag with a brass kisslock clasp. Soft pleats along sides of bag. Interior zip pocket. Satin lined. A lovely example of post WW2 fashion. Circa:1940s Condition: The handle was repaired at some point and there is a spot where the seams do not line up perfectly, see closeup photo. Otherwise very good vintage condition. 7 ½” x 11 ½” Handle Drop 6” #midcenturypurse #pinupstyle #kisslockpurse #vintage40shandbags #vintagefelthandbag Goth. Whimsygoth, rockabilly, vamp, mcm fashion, post ww2 style, vixen, psychobilly, coquette, costume
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | photos 1-5: brass-tone rectangular kisslock frame with small spherical and teardrop-shaped clasp elements; metal shows age-related dulling. No Coach engraving is visible. |
| leather description | photos 1-4 and 6: black fuzzy felt or textile body and handle; leather is not visibly used for the main body. |
| lining description | photo 5: dark satin-like fabric lining with an interior zip pocket; no label is visible. |
| strap construction | photos 1-4 and 6: single short shoulder handle attached with small metal rings and fabric/leather attachment tabs; handle appears repaired or uneven at one attachment. |
| stitching description | photos 1, 2, and 5: gathered textile seams and frame attachment are visible, but stitching is not detailed enough for a Coach construction assessment. |
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"coach_probability": 0.025,
"vintage_probability": 0.865,
"authenticity_confidence": 0.025,
"image_quality_score": 0.77,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.03,
"confidence": 0.89,
"recommended_max_bid": 15,
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"photo 1: clearly a handbag with a structured kisslock frame, gathered body, and shoulder handle.",
"photo 2: brass-tone frame and kisslock closure are consistent with a vintage handbag, but are not Coach-specific.",
"photo 1,3: vintage handbag silhouette with top handle consistent with seller-stated 1940s mid-century style"
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"photo 1: body appears to be black felt or textile rather than Coach glove-tanned leather.",
"photo 5: satin or synthetic fabric lining is visible; this does not match the classic unlined glove-tanned Coach construction.",
"photos 1-6: no visible Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage mark, leather hangtag, creed patch, or Coach-specific branding.",
"photos 1-4: the closure is a kisslock frame, not a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 5: the interior zipper pocket and lining appear generic and provide no Coach identifier.",
"photo 1-4,6: black felt textile body and handle, not leather - Coach is leather maker, felt triggers coach_probability <=0.05 rule",
"photo 5: satin lining with zip pocket, not unlined suede-back glove-tanned leather",
"photo 1-5: kisslock frame closure, no turnlock, no creed patch, no hangtag, no wordmark visible",
"photo 4: handle repair with misaligned seams noted by seller, felt handle with metal rings - not Coach strap construction"
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"photo 5: no close-up of any interior label, maker tag, or stitched brand mark is provided.",
"photo 5: the interior is visible but any small label near seams or pockets is not shown at sufficient detail to verify a maker.",
"photo 1: seller states the handle was repaired; close-up documentation of the repair and attachment points would help assess condition.",
"photo 1: bottom and all corners are not shown directly.",
"No Coach creed patch visible - interior shows only satin lining and zip pocket (photo 5)",
"No COACH wordmark, hangtag, or hardware stamps visible in any photo",
"Bottom and close-up of zipper brand not shown"
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"photos 1-6: no Coach identifier is visible, so a Coach attribution cannot be supported; this appears more likely to be a generic mid-century handbag than a Coach piece.",
"photo 1-5: body and handle are black felt textile, not glove-tanned leather - inconsistent with any 1940s-1990s Coach manufacture",
"photo 5: black satin lining with interior zip pocket - Coach classics of vintage era are unlined suede, satin lining indicates non-Coach mid-century manufacture"
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"The seller's circa-1940s description is compatible with the visual styling, although the date is not independently verifiable from the photos.",
"Condition: Good to Very Good; the seller reports a repaired handle and a seam misalignment, while the photos show general textile wear and aged hardware. Interior is shown, but maker labeling is not visible.",
"No Coach model fits: felt body, kisslock frame, satin lining and felt handle are inconsistent with any Coach catalog style in 4.1-4.3",
"Era reasoning: materials and kisslock construction support mid-century non-Coach origin as seller states, predates Coach handbag creed system and glove-tanned classics",
"Condition: Good to Very Good vintage; handle repaired with seam misalignment per seller and photo 4, otherwise intact felt and working kisslock (photo 2,5)"
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"photo 5: satin or synthetic fabric lining is visible; this does not match the classic unlined glove-tanned Coach construction.",
"photos 1-6: no visible Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage mark, leather hangtag, creed patch, or Coach-specific branding.",
"photos 1-4: the closure is a kisslock frame, not a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 5: the interior zipper pocket and lining appear generic and provide no Coach identifier."
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"photo 5: the interior is visible but any small label near seams or pockets is not shown at sufficient detail to verify a maker.",
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"photo 1: bottom and all corners are not shown directly."
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"leather_description": "photos 1-4 and 6: black fuzzy felt or textile body and handle; leather is not visibly used for the main body.",
"lining_description": "photo 5: dark satin-like fabric lining with an interior zip pocket; no label is visible.",
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"The seller's circa-1940s description is compatible with the visual styling, although the date is not independently verifiable from the photos.",
"Condition: Good to Very Good; the seller reports a repaired handle and a seam misalignment, while the photos show general textile wear and aged hardware. Interior is shown, but maker labeling is not visible."
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"photo 1-5: body and handle are black felt textile, not glove-tanned leather - inconsistent with any 1940s-1990s Coach manufacture",
"photo 5: black satin lining with interior zip pocket - Coach classics of vintage era are unlined suede, satin lining indicates non-Coach mid-century manufacture"
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"No COACH wordmark, hangtag, or hardware stamps visible in any photo",
"Bottom and close-up of zipper brand not shown"
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"photo 5: satin lining with zip pocket, not unlined suede-back glove-tanned leather",
"photo 1-5: kisslock frame closure, no turnlock, no creed patch, no hangtag, no wordmark visible",
"photo 4: handle repair with misaligned seams noted by seller, felt handle with metal rings - not Coach strap construction"
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"leather_description": "not leather - black felt \/ wool-like textile with pleated gathering, visible nap and pilling (photo 1-4,6)",
"lining_description": "black satin lining with interior zip pocket with ring pull (photo 5)",
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"stitching_description": "not_visible - pleated construction, no observable Coach-type matched stitching",
"strap_construction": "narrow fixed top handle in same black felt, looped through frame rings with wrapped ends (photo 1,3,4)",
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"Era reasoning: materials and kisslock construction support mid-century non-Coach origin as seller states, predates Coach handbag creed system and glove-tanned classics",
"Condition: Good to Very Good vintage; handle repaired with seam misalignment per seller and photo 4, otherwise intact felt and working kisslock (photo 2,5)"
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.